GLOBAL BUSINESS IDENTIFIER (GBI) for CUSTOMS COMPLIANCE

Machine Automated Transcript: Yeah. So there are a lot of things that keep us up at night as a broker, right? So first of all, we are

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Hey folks, we’re in for a new show for simply trade Ania, I’m gonna probably just destroy your last

name. I won’t take a shot at it. But you know me being the dumb country boy I am. Ania,

Weirzbowska-Fuller, right? Very, very close, very close. Weirzbowska. Weirzbowska? Okay, Polish

names, no one can pronounce them. Anya, you are with AN Deringer, and you work with good friend,

Amy Magnus, but AN Deringer is folks, if you don’t know, they are a customs brokerage firm that is

involved in a lot. They have a lot of folks with them that are very, very well respected. Anya being one

of them, I’m looking forward to this discussion, but why don’t you give a brief synopsis here of what is

it that you’re doing for AN Deringer

yes, so I am a director of consulting and Regulatory Affairs. So I lead a team of trade compliance

services, so that we are actually, we are actually three different teams. There is consulting that does

a lot of billable projects for our clients, and those billable projects are everything from HDS

classification to prior disclosure. So we can do a lot of different things. Then we have a regulatory

team, and that team is really mostly focus on making sure that Deringer is compliance with

compliance with all of the rules and regulations that are coming at us every day. And we also help our

clients to be compliant. And we have compliance team who helps with that as well and does a lot of

Post Entry amendments like summary corrections, protests, and also helps our clients being

compliant with all the rules and regulations. So in a nutshell, this is, this is the role of my trade

Compliance Services team. You’d sent out some things preliminary for us, and I love asking this

question. You put it in, what keeps you up at night? So it’s like in in what you were looking at there, of

what you’re seeing from your perspective, yeah. So there are a lot of things that keep us up at night

as a broker, right? So first of all, we are truly struggling to stay on top of all the regulatory changes

and new requirements. And this is our business, right? This is our business. So how can an importer

Andy, who has a company to run, and for whom customs clearance is really only incidental to the

company’s core business. How can they stay informed about all the changes that are coming at themand how they can be compliant with all the new requirements? It is very, very hard in this

environment. And you know, one of the significant and really impactful requirements that went into

effect in the last few years is for importers to intimately know their supply chain. Historically,

importers were only concerned maybe with a few layers of their supply chain, right? They needed to

know their direct suppliers, of course, perhaps factories. But these days, mostly because of the forced

labor, they have to understand every level of their supply chain, down to that proverbial tomato seed.

They need to know where the cotton was grown, right? They need to know where the quartz was

mined and where the aluminum was melted. So today, our customers have to also understand

consequences of not knowing their suppliers, there’s adverse inference. And I think that’s a very

important, important concept. CBT will, for example, use adverse inference on forced labor. So as a

broker, we, of course, don’t need to know our customers suppliers, but our customers have to, and

they have to understand. So you know with that, this is why Deringer here at Deringer, we are

participating in various CBT pilots like GBI, the Global Business identifier test. I wanted to take just a

second to talk about it, because we understand where customs is headed, right in requiring that we

know more about our business partners, and we also encourage our customers participation in the

GBI test, even though it’s not mandatory right now, but I think that partaking in such a test can have

benefits to importers. It could help them with their supply chain traceability, all right? And with that.

Let’s, let’s stop for a second, so folks, what’s happening here is, is we’re going through, if you are

somebody that’s in a small company, if you are somebody that’s, you know, new into the compliance

arena and all that, and some of the things we’re dealing with,

your purchasing department, your sourcing department, needs to that part of your vetting process

needs to look at including this as part of the requirements. So your customs attorneys or your legal

departments in their contracts, also when they need to be asking for this kind of stuff. So if you’re in

the import, export compliance arena, I’ve just mentioned several different areas that you need to be

reaching out within your company to say, we need to get up to speed on this GBI. So I would say you

yourself need to be become proficient in this. And Anya is going to give you a little bit more detail

here. But second, you need to take actions, to reach out to other parts of your of your company, so

that you can incorporate the GBI into your business. When you’re dealing with a supply, supplier of

goods, a manufacturer, their suppliers, you want their GBI so that it comes in Anya, if I got a good

handle on is, is that a good synopsis? Is we’re going into this? Yeah, and it’s pretty good synopsis, and

if anyone has any questions, you know, I’ll be happy to answer so you can definitely reach out to me.

But basically, in this GBI test, right, CBT chose three distinct identifiers to evaluate, and the test is to

examine whether those identifiers can become an effective tool in improving government visibility to

imports. So they also want to see whether they can improve supply chain traceability. And under this

test, so that you mentioned DAN data, universal number system, Dan’s number that’s one of them.

Andy

And there is the second one. Is the global location number, GLN, and the legal entity identifier LEI, is

the third one. So CBP is using all three of them, because neither of them, on its own, provides all the

data that CBP would like to see. But as a test participant, you do not have to submit all three

numbers. Even one would work, right? Although submitting two or more would provide more benefits

and would give more information to you, to your company, but also to CBP. So, so it would be a good

idea to use three, all three numbers if you want to participate in the test. And also just just to make

sure that understood, this test doesn’t have to apply to all of the imports, right? So it could be really

just a part of your import, maybe one specific sourcing scenario or lane that you are more interested

in looking into more deeply. So again, you can look at this from the perspective of what would benefitme. What do I want to learn more about my supply chain? Which supply scenario I want to use? And

then use these numbers with CBT, because CBT is looking for a feedback, right? And insight from the

test participants,

all right. So with that, I guess the scenario here is taking what you’ve already got registered, if you

got, like a DMV number and these other numbers, you’re not having to reinvent the wheel, per se. So

that’s good. So in looking at it again in incorporating this so you’re registered. Okay, fine. You’re

trying to use this, and you come across somebody that doesn’t have one of these numbers yet. What

should you be doing or asking then, in the midst of this, should you wait until they do and say you

need to get registered with a GBI or or what?

Well, I think you know this will probably depend on your suppliers. Not everyone will be using the

numbers. And again, this is just a test. I think at the end, CBP will determine whether any of these

numbers, or a combination of these numbers will be something they will want to use so, but I would

talk to suppliers also and see if they could register for some of these numbers, because, again, that

will provide you more visibility into your supply chain, right?

Well, it’s with that. Then let’s say that you’ve got that, and you’re you’re moving forward. Then what I

mean is, with all the things that were going on, I gotta say you hit on something else. If somebody’s

registered, you’re thinking they’re trying to be that good corporate citizen and all that. But as you’re

going through this, the other thing is, you mentioned verifying the supply chain, verifying where

these goods and the raw goods are coming from, and being where it’s manufactured and all that. How

do you keep up with that? Hey, I’m just a, you know, small company in the, you know, in, let’s say,

here in Arkansas and whatnot, it’s like, what am I going to how am I going to keep up with

Yeah, I think Andy. It’s a it’s a good challenge. It’s a great question. And I don’t know that I have really

a recipe, right, or a perfect answer to this. The sad part about this is that you need to keep up with it,

right? That’s part of the requirements now of importing into the United States. And it’s also important

to know your supply chain, because if you don’t, you could be bringing something into the United

States that is is banned, like product that is made with forced labor, right? So it is very hard. I think

it’s a great challenge to keep up with it. I think it’s very important to have procedures. There’s a lot of

guidance provided by CBP and other organizations right on how to keep up with with this type of

thing, and how to trace your supply chain and working with your suppliers right, asking questions.

And if you work with suppliers and they don’t want to answer your questions, or they don’t want to

provide clear information, then you may want to consider just not working with them anymore. I

think, as I know, it’s sometimes not as simple as that, but I think that’s the bottom line.

Okay, well, how do you keep up with everything? Then it’s like, even from your perspective, there’s so

many different regulations and all of that. What sources do you use? Or how do you I mean, there’s

only so much a person can read. I mean, what are you going to do and keep. Up with all this.

So again, it’s, it’s, it’s a very difficult question to I think you know, one of the things that you can and

should do as an importer, for sure, is to really develop partnership with your customs broker, right?should do as an importer, for sure, is to really develop partnership with your customs broker, right?

So developing partnership with your custom broker, I think, is the best way to achieve or one of the

best ways, maybe not the best way, but one of the best ways to achieve customs compliance and to

really understand what is needed, right? That true partnership will go beyond the legal obligation. A

broker who is really a good partner will be engaged with you and will be able to really get to know

your industry. Will be able to get to know your importation, and may be able to really help you with

with different things, right? Most brokers serve many clients, and they have valuable industry

knowledge. So if you have a good partnership with your broker. The broker will know your industry.

Will Know your import. The broker will be able to send you warnings, identify trends, give you heads

up about CBP, target enforcement. If that true partnership is formed, I think the broker is on the

lookout for you, and will inform you about new requirements you have to meet any issues you could

expect. However, I just want to point it out, you should not entirely rely on your broker to do that

right. Please remember that understanding import requirements is the importers responsibility so that

partnership can help. And I think you should meet and talk to your broker and for form the trusted

partnership, but at the same time, you need to do your homework, right? You need to understand

your responsibilities. You need to understand that as an importer, importer, you have to demonstrate

reasonable care and meet your obligations, right? And you need to read. You need to read and

understand what changes are coming. So I would recommend subscribing to different publications,

whether it’s international trade today, or publications from legal companies here, at and there and

here. We also send trade alerts to our customers, so signing up for our trade alerts helps to to really

stay informed and understand what changes. I think all these things are very important. All

right, so that’s something right there. Folks you know, utilizing your most probably 99% of companies

out here are using a customs broker for their import transactions. And you know, you also have

export your freight forwarders and all that. Along that lines, those freight forwarders and brokers,

they’re having to keep up to speed. They’ve got more resources trying to, you know, look at the

regulations and the in the federal registry, notices and things of that nature. I would say that you

need to leverage your relationship with your broker on you. You just mentioned it is like, you know,

get with your broker. Well, that means you need to talk with them. And more than just bidding on a

contract or services, it’s like, let’s step back here for a minute. If you are successful, your broker’s

going to be successful, and they’ll do everything they can to help empower you with the right

knowledge and all of that. So they can summarize a lot of good things that are going on that are hot

buttons. And if you need to get involved with an issue, that’s another thing that gets that that’s good,

where you can look at trade associations, and your broker can not only do is, are there the brokers

Association, you know, the national customs broker and freight forwarders Association, NCBFAA, that

they’re involved in, but your broker can make recommendations as to what trade associations that

may be apropos to you to help deal with an issue, because your company may not want to be the

name The main issue, or main company out there on the front lines, you can go behind a trade

association, and they can talk on behalf of the membership. Well, that’s what that’s for, but you need

to get involved to affect change, and that’s something where I would say on the regulatory affairs

front is the more associations to get together to align on an issue,

You have a shot at getting that change right Ania? Yeah, no, you’re absolutely right and deringer, you

know, we are very heavily involved, involved with associations, right? And we’re kind of on the

forefront. We always review new proposed regulations, and we advocate for change when necessary.

We also advocate for our clients. So you know, when we see issues in importing or something that is

becoming a trend, we will communicate those issues directly with CBP through customs committees,

whether it was ncbfaa or organizations like connect or northern border brokers Association, right? Sowe have people involved in all of these organizations, and we just affect the change too, all the time,

all the time, and that also gives us right, that also gives us access to information early on, so we are

informed and we are available to help with questions.

Excellent, well, and that’s the other thing, is that the newsletters is what I was trying. I just went

blank on trying to figure out what’s Yes, yeah, folks, that’s one of the things that you know. You’re

trying to keep up with everything, and you can subscribe to multiple things, but I would highly

recommend that, especially with your your customs broker, if they’re putting out a newsletter and

trade alerts, that you use that as your first primary source, and then you can follow up with other

things, because you can’t keep up with everything I’m telling you, man, I’m dumb as box of rocks. I

gotta get and look at people that are smarter than me, and they write the articles and all that, and so

that. Great. So then I get up to speed on something, and then the scenario there is, hey, I need to

know a little bit more on this particular issue. Now I don’t have to look at everything. I look at what’s

apropo to me. I keep using that word for some reason today makes me sound smart, I guess, but as I

go through is like, what’s appropriate, I guess, or what’s near and dear. So to that point, that’s where I

guess I’m going in and looking at it where it will show you where to look. A newsletter is not going to

be your final source, but it’s going to tell you and give you some things up and bring you up to speed.

But then it gives you, hey, where do I need to look? I need to look a little bit more on. We’re talking

about the de minimis. We’re talking about, you know, the entries, the entry quality, the things that

are going on there, there’s the Export Administration is getting a bit more. What’s the word I’m

looking for? I guess, aggressive in enforcement. So all those things that come into play and, and

that’s, that’s, you know, is a key factor. But here’s something else, Anya, when you’re dealing with

your clients, and then all of that, alright, that you bring them up to speed on issues and things of that

nature. But then there’s an thing that I always come back to say, Okay, this is good information, but

what do I do with it? And that’s where you need to come back around. And I guess look at it as to, is

there a regulation that’s going to affect part of my operations and things do I need to update my

procedures, and if I update my procedures, then you have, you know what most people are calling the

SOPs, or standard operating procedures, like, Okay, that’s a living document. Don’t let it. Just draft it

and let it sit there. Right,

right? No, you’re absolutely right. It’s very important to have SOPs, right, but also very important to

understand that you have to make updates, and you may may have to change your processes

depending on what’s going on. You know, from the broker’s perspective, Andy, we want to make sure

that we are aware of any changes, but we also inform our clients. So for example, there are a lot of

changes that are coming to 301, the duties on goods from China, right? So we are looking at reports.

We are pulling reports from our system. We are looking for clients that may be affected, especially if

their duties will increase. We also want to be able to let our clients know of any exclusions they may

be able to utilize. And again, this is not 100% bullet proof, right, but that type of analysis we are doing

internally for our clients, in addition to trade alerts. So I completely agree with you that if you’re

working with your broker, if you have a broker and the broker has trade alerts sign up for those,

because what we try to do is to really synthesize this vast amount of information that is out there that

can be very overwhelming, and really focus on the key points that can affect our customers. Right.

Like, like with 301 duties on September 27 tariffs on a lot of goods from China will be increasing, and

it’s important for importers to know that, because they may be affected, right? If you, if you import

electric vehicles, EV batteries, solar cells, face mask, needles, syringes, minerals or still an aluminum

your duties will go up right, and there will be additional increases in January of next year and January

of 2026 so some of these duty rates are very high. If you remember, they started with like 15 and

25% now they go up, in some instances, 200% so it’s important to know, and it’s also important toknow that there is an exclusion process that was announced with this latest announcement on

September 13, so for non solar industrial equipment, but every importer will have to apply for an

exclusion, and those opposing the exclusion with will have an opportunity to express the their views.

So obtaining an exclusion is a process and will take time, but these are the type of things to be aware

of, because they are constantly changing, right and and they may affect your imports, and you don’t

want to be surprised,

well, and to that point is that as we’re looking at it, I guess there’s also another element that, of all

the things you’re looking at and what we’ve talked about is also you’ve got to inform your your peers,

but also upper management. So in looking at that, and with all the things you’ve just talked about,

what do you have any suggestions for somebody on how to inform upper management without, you

know, getting the deer in the headlight look kind of like you’ve overwhelmed them.

Yeah, upper management is always probably mostly concerned about ROI, right? So there’s

compliance aspect that is always really difficult to monetize, but so critical, because how can you

really, how can you really put an ROI on avoiding penalties or delays? Right? You can, but it’s really

hard now, with additional duties and requirements like that, that really hits your bottom line. So the

cost of your goods, imported goods may increase if you are hit with additional duties. And you

definitely want to know that upfront. The same with anti dumping, right there, there are so many new

anti dumping and countervailing orders. And again, it’s important to know if there are new orders that

may be, that may be applicable to your product, because that will increase your cost of goods. So you

can, you can always go at this from that perspective, right? What’s happening, and how does this

really affect the duties, the amount of duties, and the cost of goods that I’m importing, and do we

need to make this a change in our strategy to import our sourcing strategy. So, so I think that’s that’s

kind of one way you can approach it. But also, I think upper management should be aware of

importers obligations. You know, we see so many times importers who get in trouble with CBP

because they don’t understand their obligations, and at times they really rely too heavily on their

brokers. They think that their broker will be able to handle everything and will know everything about

their imports. And that’s that’s not true, right? The broker has to rely on the documentation and

information provided from from the importer, because the broker never sees the shipment, right? The

broker does not know what’s in the box. So informing you know upper management about those

obligations is important too well.

And here’s something else that comes into play, in my opinion, is that is very important to have good

descriptions and all that. But you know, when customs is wanting, you know the brokers and holding

accounts like you know the broker doesn’t know what’s in the box. Your supplier could have provided

something. You’re an importer, and they could have put something in there. They’re not supposed to.

But all said and done, there’s an expectation where, all right, the broker should be opening up these

boxes look to see what’s in there. I’m sorry that’s not we don’t have the authority to do that. That’s

customs job, not ours. So in that scenario, when we start looking at it’s why it’s even more important

make sure that you, as a company and being an importer, you vet or you check out, you know

extensively who you’re doing business with and who they’re doing business with. And you don’t need

to do this solely on your own. You need to do it with the purchasing, sourcing folks, the IT folks, the

you know, the other elements of your company. So if. Folks, as we start going through it, and we’re

looking at this, this is one of those where, you know, to me, it’s, I always say, this is where the rubber

meets the road. We’ve talked about, you know, due to the supply the forced labor regulations, youneed to know your supply chain well. To know your supply chain takes a relationship with the people

you’re doing business with that takes time to develop. That takes time to check things out. If you’ve

got some red flags, don’t ignore them. This GBI, the Global Business identifier. That’s a good thing,

because it’s hopefully going to streamline things with not only as you’re dealing with people and your

companies, but as you’re selling your goods. I mean, I guarantee you that the AEO requirements over

in Europe, this would be one of those positive things, that you’re already ahead of the ball game with

some of that. So I don’t know, I’m just looking at it across the board, but there’s no doubt. Is always,

never, it’s there’s always a lot of things going on in the industry, definitely.

And Andy, I’m glad you mentioned product descriptions, because they are very important, and

actually they are often a nightmare, right? And they contribute to CBP holes and incorrect entries. So

sometimes, one of the easiest things importer can do to minimize customs holds is providing a good

description of imported goods, and if you think about this right, your broker is also one of the brokers

responsibilities to verify information the broker received from from an importer. But your broker can

even conduct HDS trade phase test if you don’t provide detailed description of your product on the

commercial document. So that’s that’s one element that seems very simple, but it’s really critical.

Well, I could tell you all said and done, though, is that the alliance with your broker is so important

from a compliance perspective, but also bringing your broker in for a quarterly business review, so

that not only can you look at the services that a broker is doing, but also give the broker

representatives a chance to bring you and your team up to speed on, hey, here’s what’s going On.

This is something you need to be looking at and align, I aligning with, you know, the efforts. I think

that is something that is so important and is so missed people, you know, they just, they’re in their

own little world. It’s like, man, bring in people. You don’t have to be the only voice hats. Have

somebody else come in and talk about it. How? What do you think about that? Oh,

I completely agree, right? When you think about developing this effective partnership with your

customs broker, communication, communication, communication, it’s critical getting to know each

other. Open channels of communication are critical elements in developing that partnership, I

completely agree that you should have reviews with your customs broker. So so first of all, really, that

relationship should be somewhat structured, right? So you have your POA that allows you to set up

the relationship and authorizes your broker to process entries. But then there are terms and

conditions that are very important. These are your ground rules. How will you hold each other

accountable? How will you resolve dispute, and once this is all like set on the high level, it would be

still meaningless without an SOP. So Andy, you mentioned SOPs a few minutes ago, but I think having

a documented standard operating procedures with your broker is really, really critical, right? You

need to like each party

needs to you’re going down the road the broker plays a key role, but it’s like also people within your

company, absolutely and your supply they’re sending information to who your broker or they’re

sending it to you. Don’t sit on it. They need that information timely. And it’s things of that nature,

right?

Like you and your broker have to be crystal clear on who does what and how both parties need theirLike you and your broker have to be crystal clear on who does what and how both parties need their

contractual and compliance obligation. That’s just the bottom line,

not only who does what, but when they do it and to whom they send it to, kind of thing.

So yes, so that SOP is critically important, and then then you have to have business reviews right

meet with your broker periodically, quarterly is a good cadence. When you meet with your broker,

discuss performance. It is good to have KPIs right, some key performance indicators established up

front so you know what you’re focused on. But discuss your satisfaction. How are things going for

each party? Are there problems? Talk about solutions. And areas where improvement is needed, but,

but I would say, don’t wait for a business review to communicate and resolve day to day issues, right?

Do do that as they occur, and work together to improve process if necessary. Don’t wait three months

to to inform your broker about some some problems. That’s that’s not very effective.

Well, I can tell you that the other thing is, is that in the spirit of continuous improvement and quality

assurance, all those you don’t want to wait for a quarterly review, but on the same token as you’re

dealing with things you when you get together, that’s one of the things, I guess I always challenge

when, you know, when I would challenge my staff. I would challenge the companies I would work with

when I was consulting. And all that is, you bring in people from different areas, and again, purchasing,

operations, warehousing, compliance. It all these different entity customer service. And I would look

in and say, we need to look at the the whole process, and take a lane segment, let’s say, of a specific

product and or specific lane, and say, Are there any areas where we can reduce cycle times? So

instead of saying, well, we just want to make things better, and everybody was just sitting, was just

sitting there like, well, you know, now the question is, how can we reduce cycle times? I would like to

reduce two days out of this process that may be 15 days long. How can we do that? Well, we can get

an hour here. We can get four hours over here. We can do this, whatever the case may be, so that

even even to the point where, when the shipping is finally, it goes, leaves the factory, comes in and

gets cleared, it’s there’s no clearance delays. It gets through in and gets delivered that you it’s timed

out to where on the delivery it goes immediately into inventory, and is it processed appropriately,

versus comes in and sits an extra day or two, then is put on the shelves, you know, those kinds of

things. How can we work together so that, hey, we’ve got something coming now. Warehouse be

ready. You got to have folks on the schedule for the receiving doc or whatever the case may be, I just

that’s one of those things that reducing cycle times is is a big thing, but that’s also one where people,

when you get them together, enables them to focus without getting defensive.

Yeah, no, that’s, that’s very true. And I think, you know, everything can be discussed during those

conversations if there is an open dialog, right? One of the things we sometimes struggle with was with

some of our clients that, I must say, is lack of responsiveness, right? So I think it’s really important to

not only establish those expectations from from very beginning, and the expectations especially that

your broker will come to you for questions, because you don’t want your broker to make assumptions

on your entry, but be reachable and responsive to your broker’s questions, and also expect same

responsiveness for your from your broker. And I think one other thing, Andy, I think that would help is

really from the importer’s perspective, understand what your broker needs to process your entry fastand without problems, because if you understand that, it can provide that information to the broker

correct information, right? That’s critical. Your entry will be submitted smoothly, and that cycle

process will be definitely improved.

I love it. I love it. And with all that, I just just that folks, as we’ve looked through this, we’re going to

have anya’s contact information with Ann Derringer and all that, with our show notes and all but this

is one of those things that I’m hoping that, as you look at this, it’s going to stimulate some thoughts.

It’s like we’ve covered quite a few different things, but in looking at it, it’s just again, something

where our hope is that you’re now going to be empowered with what’s what’s the action you should

be taking today. Look at how you’re staying up to speed on and up to date, I guess, with things get

with your brokers and their their newsletters and all that. Look to see if there are regulatory affairs

agenda items that your broker could help you out with, or something that you need to be become

proficient in that means you need to be up to speed and how you’re going to communicate to upper

management those types of regulatory affairs issues that, hey, this is, you know, an issue that we

need to be informed on and get involved with. And here’s why, here’s the impact. Don’t just say, well,

it’s a big deal. No, what’s it mean? We are at risk for this in China, or we’re at risk at this four. Or are

goods being commingled, or are cotton being commingled in the manufacturing process? How do you

deal with that? Whatever the case may be. And then, you know, finally, look to see whatever’s going

on from a, you know, regulatory affairs that’s come down the pipe that has changed regulations, what

procedures, or your standard operating procedures need to be updated, and go from there. That’s

just scratching the surface. Man, we’ve gone. But Anya, any final thoughts here, we could keep going.

I love talking with you. You’re You’re so sharp and, and, but is there anything else that you want to

add to what I’ve just said here? I

think, I think you summarized that really pretty well, and I think it’s really important to partner with

your broker to stay on top of what’s coming. And you’re absolutely right when you said that. You

know, if you don’t understand your supply chain, if you don’t form partnership with your suppliers and

don’t understand with whom you you do business. Not only your customer may increase, but your

product may not be even allowed entry into the United States, or in the least, you will you will

encounter some high fees for storage, because it will take months, maybe to resolve an issue. But

today, you know, there are so many requirements, and I think it’s really, really critical that you

understand what’s required of you as an importer when you want to import into the United States and

and you you partner, you take experts as partners to develop, you know, your your supply chain

mapping to put together a compliance program with SOPs and best practices, and you stay on top of

updating those best practices and procedures when needed as things change.

I love it. I love it, folks, if you also have your executive management that, by chance, listens to some

things. This may be something that you need to do. Your takeaway here is putting something

together on Hey, this is something that they need to be involved in and look at occasionally. So Anya,

once again, thank you so much for everything that you’ve just you know, in this discussion, it’s very

stimulating. I love it, and I hope that we can do this again here in the near future, as we go through

and then look at, you know, we didn’t really get into the details, for example, on the de minimis, that

is a big hot button right now, and the brokers are looking at it and a few others. And I’ve got some

opinions on it to where I think there are companies that should be supplying resources to customs to

process these de minimis shipments rather than just showing up. Here’s a printout or something, and

said they just want to clear it. So we’ll get into that at some point.Yeah, that’s an important topic. I think it will change what’s happening right now is not sustainable,

right? And there is this recent administration call for Congress to act on it this year, so we will see

changes very soon on the minimum Sandy, thank

you so much. Anya, all said and done. I hope you have a great day. And this is Andy shiles with

Simply trade. Y’all have a great day.

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